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SS90 Freak
Member since Aug-4-06
11 posts
Aug-05-06, 01:43 AM (EDT)
 
"1974 - Tri Lambretta Helicak - only 2 known in existenc"
 
   Just when you thought you knew everything about Innocenti Lambrettas !

Is this one of the rarest Lambrettas in existence ?

Innocenti made only 860 of these weird Tri Lambrettas & the majority were sold to the Indonesian Government in Jakarta for transporting people.

In 1987 they were banned, the owners were paid off & nearly all, were dumped in the sea at Ancol.

The tri Lambretta was based on a DL 150 frame & body with a 150cc engine, the helicopter pods were added by Italindo the agents for Innocenti.

The owner of this one hid it behind his house for fear of being fined due to the fact that his operating licence had run out.

This one is frame number 2022, there is one other known Helicak in existence.

SS90 Freak

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MarkH
Member since Jun-7-02
1642 posts
Aug-05-06, 01:49 AM (EDT)
 
1. "RE: 1974 - Tri Lambretta Helicak - only 2 known in exis"
In response to message #0
 
   1974? That wouldn't make it an Innocenti.

Is this documented? Cuz this has "homemade" written all over it.


 
SS90 Freak
Member since Aug-4-06
11 posts
Aug-05-06, 02:13 AM (EDT)
 
2. "RE: 1974 - Tri Lambretta Helicak - only 2 known in exis"
In response to message #0
 
   Sorry 1974 was the year of registration in Indonesia.

They were produced between April & July of 1970.

Like I said the helipods were added by Italindo of Jakarta the Innocenti concessionaires for Indonesia.

The Tri Lambretta was not home made, they were manufactured in Italy by Innocenti.

Front hubs, steering mechanism & headset were unique to the Tri Lambretta, I have the original Innocenti Spare Parts Book.

The frame numbers are prefixed by 22/3

SS90 Freak


 
scot mckenzie
Member since Jun-24-06
187 posts
Aug-05-06, 02:26 AM (EDT)
 
3. "RE: 1974 - Tri Lambretta Helicak - only 2 known in exis"
In response to message #2
 
   does that mean, it's so rare it's gonna show up on Epay in a couple of days it's so rare? or it's so rare that i'm gonna post the manual this is so rare???


 
SS90 Freak
Member since Aug-4-06
11 posts
Aug-05-06, 02:41 AM (EDT)
 
4. "RE: 1974 - Tri Lambretta Helicak - only 2 known in exis"
In response to message #3
 
   >does that mean, it's so rare it's gonna show up on Epay in a
>couple of days it's so rare? or it's so rare that i'm gonna
>post the manual this is so rare???
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Whats your point dickhead ?

I posted for the interest of Lambretta enthusiasts, I have 85 in my collection, they are not for sale.

Maybe some people have never seen or even know about the Tri Lambretta & might just find it interesting unlike reading your bullshit.

SS90 Freak

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To those of you that are interested, here is a photo of the unique Innocenti headset.

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Johnny Diablo
Member since Sep-1-05
1179 posts
Aug-05-06, 02:57 AM (EDT)
 
5. "RE: 1974 - Tri Lambretta Helicak - only 2 known in exis"
In response to message #4
 
   If it was a great idea then yes... big bucks!

Its some kinda car/scooter abortion.... dump it in the ocean!!

Widebody Modding Forum:

http://diablossc.com/Forum/default.asp


 
SpiritOf_69
Member since Feb-23-05
432 posts
Aug-05-06, 03:21 AM (EDT)
 
6. "RE: 1974 - Tri Lambretta Helicak - only 2 known in exis"
In response to message #5
 
   doesnt really look handmade.

someone would have gone through ALOT of trouble if they did hand make it. its all clean and straight, signaled and everything is lammy on it.


1969


 
SpiritOf_69
Member since Feb-23-05
432 posts
Aug-05-06, 03:22 AM (EDT)
 
7. "RE: 1974 - Tri Lambretta Helicak - only 2 known in exis"
In response to message #6
 
   got anymore pics?


1969


 
Scootapimp
Member since Jun-7-02
1565 posts
Aug-05-06, 02:41 PM (EDT)
 
15. "RE: 1974 - Tri Lambretta Helicak - only 2 known in exis"
In response to message #4
 
   that thing is rad, thanks for sharing it...now, what I would really like to see is your collection...with 85 you must have some more interesting stuff....
Cheers!
Josh


 
Alan A
Member since Sep-11-05
62 posts
Aug-05-06, 04:15 AM (EDT)
 
8. "RE: 1974 - Tri Lambretta Helicak - only 2 known in exis"
In response to message #0
 
   I'm curious as to why Innocenti would use a handlebar lightswitch from around 1959-61, on a machine the produced in 1970.
The front footboards look to be made from a single sheet bent at each side, with no recesses for the runner strip edge.
Is that a brake pedal at the back of the rear runner? Looks pretty unreachable to me.
I refuse to believe that Bertone would allow his design to be used in the overall horror show that is that thing.
But you never know with those wacky Italians.


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1962 Lambretta Li 125
1962 Lambretta Li 150 Schoolmaster
1963 Lambretta Li 150
1970 Lambretta dl 150
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SS90 Freak
Member since Aug-4-06
11 posts
Aug-05-06, 07:13 AM (EDT)
 
9. "RE: 1974 - Tri Lambretta Helicak - only 2 known in exis"
In response to message #8
 
   >I'm curious as to why Innocenti would use a handlebar
>lightswitch from around 1959-61, on a machine the produced
>in 1970.
>The front footboards look to be made from a single sheet
>bent at each side, with no recesses for the runner strip
>edge.
>Is that a brake pedal at the back of the rear runner? Looks
>pretty unreachable to me.
>I refuse to believe that Bertone would allow his design to
>be used in the overall horror show that is that thing.
>But you never know with those wacky Italians. ;)

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Bearing in mind that the Tri Lambretta was built in 1970, when Innocenti was on it’s last legs, they were probably using up old stock, hence the much earlier light switch.

With regards to Bertona worrying about the design of the Tri Lambretta, I would doubt he even cared, he would still be getting his design commission for the use of the DL 150 Body.

The Tri Lambretta was designed as a work horse to earn money on a commercial basis, as long as at least 3 people could sit in the front & on the rear there was enough space for luggage, packages or even animals, nobody was concerned about what the vehicle looked like.

The Helipod built on the front had the convenience of a sun roof, fully upholstered seats & a padded dashboard.

Below I have posted 4 pages from the Tri Lambretta parts catalogue & a couple more photos.
You can see the light switch & the main frame, also interesting to note that they used an old style single seat.


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Most people from Jakarta can remember the Helicak with fondness, IMO it was a great shame it got banned in favour of the Indian 3 wheeler Bajaj, which still exist in there 1000s today, I would much rather hear the noise of a Lammy !

SS90 Freak


 
yeahyeahyeah
Member since Jun-2-04
539 posts
Aug-05-06, 08:52 AM (EDT)
 
10. "RE: 1974 - Tri Lambretta Helicak - only 2 known in exis"
In response to message #9
 
   it's like an ape made by a bunch of dyslexics! that thing is fugly as hell but i'd still rock it like a hurricane! thanks for posting it.

1974 Vespa 177 super
1963 Lambretta Li 125
1972 Honda CB500


 
Frank Drebin
Member since Nov-28-03
273 posts
Aug-05-06, 10:13 AM (EDT)
 
14. "RE: 1974 - Tri Lambretta Helicak - only 2 known in exis"
In response to message #9
 
   That is nice! Imagine driving that in America, you would get harassed by the cops every 30 seconds. Thanks for sharing.


 
e rock
Member since Apr-5-03
546 posts
Aug-07-06, 02:50 PM (EDT)
 
25. "RE: 1974 - Tri Lambretta Helicak - only 2 known in exis"
In response to message #8
 
   >Is that a brake pedal at the back of the rear runner? Looks
>pretty unreachable to me.

I ride w/ my feet there, rearset style, most of the time. Not a prob.
Otherwise, yeah, that thing's got more funk that a trunk of Outkast
records.


 
Jay H
Member since Jun-6-02
686 posts
Aug-05-06, 09:32 AM (EDT)
 
11. "RE: 1974 - Tri Lambretta Helicak - only 2 known in exis"
In response to message #0
 
   Very cool! Thanks for posting the pics & catalog pages.

- Jay H.

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Cogito Ergo Scoot.


 
cphilip
Member since Jul-16-03
7408 posts
Aug-05-06, 09:50 AM (EDT)
 
12. "RE: 1974 - Tri Lambretta Helicak - only 2 known in exis"
In response to message #11
 
   Very interesting. Pray tell, what was the logic behind banning it?


 
Blank Spaces
Member since Jul-18-06
181 posts
Aug-05-06, 09:57 AM (EDT)
 
13. "RE: 1974 - Tri Lambretta Helicak - only 2 known in exis"
In response to message #12
 
  
Cart before horse?


 
Charles
Member since Jul-26-02
692 posts
Aug-05-06, 10:27 PM (EDT)
 
16. "Interesting."
In response to message #0
 
   Hi,

Thanks for posting the pictures. They are very interesting.

In the past, I have fantisized about an Innocenti car that would look like the Messerschmidt but with DL type styling.

It is interesting to see that it could be done.

Now if it were only designed in an appealing manner.

Charles


 
wetspeed
Member since Jan-9-05
604 posts
Aug-05-06, 11:40 PM (EDT)
 
17. "RE: Interesting."
In response to message #16
 
   Thanks for sharing. I would venture to say that other variants exist in the Lambretta world. Didn't a similar layout minus cab get produced in Argentina?

Big Jim...


 
wetspeed
Member since Jan-9-05
604 posts
Aug-06-06, 00:10 AM (EDT)
 
18. "RE: Interesting."
In response to message #17
 
   Page 188 and 189 of "Innocenti Lambretta the Difinitive History" by Vittorio Tessera has photos of the open cab version. I new I had seen it somewhere. I still think there was a version made in South America, but I think it was on a series II platform. Anyone know if Siambretta produced one?

Big Jim...


 
Tac
Member since Mar-2-06
229 posts
Aug-06-06, 02:04 PM (EDT)
 
19. "RE: 1974 - Tri Lambretta Helicak - only 2 known in exis"
In response to message #0
 
   "In 1987 they were banned, the owners were paid off & nearly all, were dumped in the sea at Ancol."


Why?

Driving with hope and safety on a cheerful double seat.


 
rsavage
Member since Sep-20-04
356 posts
Aug-06-06, 03:39 PM (EDT)
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20. "RE: 1974 - Tri Lambretta Helicak - only 2 known in exis"
In response to message #19
 
   Possibly because they look crazy dangerous. Look at the drivers field of vision. He can only see through a double window that goes through the cab. Yikes!


 
SS90 Freak
Member since Aug-4-06
11 posts
Aug-06-06, 07:54 PM (EDT)
 
21. "RE: 1974 - Tri Lambretta Helicak - only 2 known in exis"
In response to message #20
 
   The Helicak was introduced in Jakarta in 1972 to replace the man driven Bacak, you can see why the design of the Helicak grew easily on the eyes of local people, it was after all a motorised Bacak.

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I believe that the Helicak was banned in 1987, due to the lack of spare parts, Innocenti had already ceased trading back in the early seventies & also for the reason that the Bajij, which was it’s replacement & still exists today, was much more manoeverable with it’s single front wheel. A very important factor on Jakarta’s crowded streets.

The Helicak would have to do a 3 point turn on a small street, whereas the Bajaj can turn in its own circle.

Safety may have been a concern, but I don’t think so, the driver looks over the top of the roof, not through the small back window.

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SS90 Freak


 
SS90 Freak
Member since Aug-4-06
11 posts
Aug-06-06, 08:01 PM (EDT)
 
22. "RE: 1974 - Tri Lambretta Helicak - only 2 known in exis"
In response to message #21
 
   One final point on this Tri Lambretta thread.

If anybody is looking for 5 to 600 genuine SX150 Engines.

Then just buy some diving gear & board a flight to Jakarta !!


SS90 Freak


 
Tac
Member since Mar-2-06
229 posts
Aug-07-06, 02:10 PM (EDT)
 
23. "RE: 1974 - Tri Lambretta Helicak - only 2 known in exis"
In response to message #22
 
   So were they banned or obsolesced?

Driving with hope and safety on a cheerful double seat.


 
Grumpy225
Member since Dec-8-03
2231 posts
Aug-07-06, 02:46 PM (EDT)
 
24. "RE: 1974 - Tri Lambretta Helicak - only 2 known in exis"
In response to message #0
 
   that is bad ass and thank you for posting it. I really like the way the front end was done.

Put down the hammer and step away from the bike you hack!


 

 

 


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